The Jack & ‘Chill Podcast 5 | Merry Christmas!

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In this episode of Jack & ‘Chill, the duo answer some Christmas related “this or that” questions. Then they talk about some annoying holiday traditions. After that, they discuss The Grinch. Finally, they share the things that make their hearts grow three sizes.

Transcript:

00:00:00

Xochitl

You are listening to the Jack and Chill podcast alright, Jack. For this episode of Jack and Chill I have a fun game of this or that which for viewers.

00:00:20

Xochitl

Means that I will ask Jack whether he would prefer one option or a second option and he will tell me which one he prefers and then I will also answer.

00:00:30

Xochitl

So Jack, do you prefer fruit cake, which is a holiday dessert that is kind of unpopular in the US? It’s basically a kind of like a loaf of cake with candied fruits incorporated into it. Or ambrosia salad, which is a creamy.

00:00:50

Xochitl

Sweet salad with several different types of fruit and fruit flavored marshmallows in it.

00:00:59

Jack

Yeah. You know, when I was a kid, I would have said ambrosia salad. I would prefer that because it’s kind of the texture is kind of like it’s kind of like jello jello or, you know, kind of a Jelly.

00:01:14

Xochitl

Yeah, like a sweet whipped.

00:01:16

Jack

Yes, sweet whipped, very light. It’s it’s you.

00:01:20

Jack

You know the expression.

00:01:21

Jack

There’s always room for Jello, you know? So at the end of of a big meal, you could still eat a little bit of ambrosia salad and it’s not going to fill you up too much. And it’s sweet, but now I’ve I think it’s disgusting. It’s way too sweet. It’s just.

00:01:40

Jack

I would rather have a a slice of fruitcake.

00:01:43

Jack

To be honest.

00:01:45

Jack

I don’t mind fruitcake that much. I mean, I know that it’s it’s not my favorite dessert, but it’s got some nuts in it. It’s got some.

00:01:56

Jack

A little bit of candied fruit and a little bit of cake, so you know it’s not. It’s not too much, it’s it doesn’t overload the senses like ambrosia salad does.

00:02:10

Jack

I don’t know. What do you think?

00:02:12

Xochitl

Uhm, I never liked ambrosia salad, even as a kid I had kind of weird taste buds, like I prefer dark chocolate over milk chocolate. Even from being a little child and.

00:02:23

Xochitl

I I would drink.

00:02:23

Jack

Yeah, that’s sophisticated.

00:02:25

Xochitl

Black Coffee, also as a child, is the Mexico kids drink coffee. I had. I did add some sugar into it, but I wouldn’t put any milk and I didn’t like it. Very sweet because I like the like kind of bitter flavor profile.

00:02:40

Xochitl

So I always had weird taste buds and.

00:02:42

Xochitl

I hated hamburger salad. It was just horrible and I would say I would pick fruit cake even though as a kid I also didn’t like the texture of like the candied fruits, raisins and like nuts in it.

00:02:54

Xochitl

I would pick. I would pick those out, but now as an adult, I think I could just eat the whole thing. I think with like a coffee.

00:03:00

Xochitl

Be or like a.

00:03:04

Xochitl

One chip which we make in Mexico, which is like the hot.

00:03:06

Xochitl

Fruit punch. Drink, I think.

00:03:07

Xochitl

That it would be tolerable.

00:03:10

Jack

Yeah, I would.

00:03:11

Jack

I would be right now I would be very satisfied with a slice of fruit cake and a a latte.

00:03:18

Jack

Like that would be. That would be nice like with my neck but a.

00:03:22

Xochitl

I’ll be hitting on Jack.

00:03:22

Jack

Like a bowl.

00:03:23

Jack

Of a bowl of marshmallows with you know, Jello and whip and whipped cream does not.

00:03:27

Xochitl

With green.

00:03:30

Jack

It doesn’t sound good to me. It’s just a. Yeah, it’s nasty.

00:03:35

Xochitl

Right now, yeah, I can’t imagine it would be, like, hard to get a spoon down and then with the food cake, it’s like, yeah, I could do it. You know, I I wouldn’t mind, actually. Yeah.

00:03:44

Xochitl

I got you. All right, Jack, for next one. Do you prefer eggnog or hot chocolate?

00:03:50

Jack

Yeah, I know we’re going to have a a bitter argument about this one, but I love.

00:03:56

Jack

I love it.

00:03:56

Xochitl

You know what? I’ve come around to eggnog.

00:03:59

Xochitl

I’ll let you finish, but I’ll let you finish.

00:03:59

Jack

Oh, OK. Yeah. I’m a big eggnog fan. My dad used to buy because they only sold it seasonally. And where I go.

00:04:09

Xochitl

Uh-huh. It’s still only sold seasonally.

00:04:11

Jack

Yeah, and it was. My dad used to buy one called Holly Nog. That was like the name of the company and dog. It was just like you. Like a milk carton, but instead out came this, like, think. I don’t know how to describe. It’s so thick. Like it’s just thick, thick.

00:04:17

Xochitl

So I yeah.

00:04:31

Jack

Like and a thick liquid and and you drink it cold and it’s not milk, but it’s kind of it’s Milky.

00:04:40

Xochitl

It’s kind of.

00:04:40

Xochitl

Like a custard, like a liquid custard.

00:04:43

Jack

Yeah, exactly. It’s very much like a liquid custard, but I.

00:04:47

Xochitl

In fact it is. It has eggs very good.

00:04:47

발표자

Always found.

00:04:50

Jack

Yeah. Well, I just like to take, like, a coffee cup with a half a coffee, coffee cup of eggnog, and. And it’s so heavy. And it’s so rich that you could just take little sips. And it feels like you’re taking a whole bite of some kind of dessert. It’s like drinking a dessert based.

00:05:10

Jack

Am I? I know the calories.

00:05:12

Jack

In there have to be astronomical like.

00:05:14

Xochitl

Ohh it’s bad because I had like it said for like 4 oz. It’s like over 200 calories and I definitely have like 2.

00:05:21

Xochitl

8 oz cups today so I I just found like 800 calories of.

00:05:26

Xochitl

The eggnog in one day.

00:05:30

Jack

I mean, I could drink a whole carton of it, to be honest. Like I I tried to make it once even and it didn’t turn out too well. I put too much vanilla extract in it and it made my throat hurt.

00:05:40

Xochitl

Oh yeah.

00:05:44

Jack

So yeah, it can. It burned, but I you know, I love. I love eggnog and I’m not. I’m not a big hot chocolate drinker. I just don’t. I’ve got a bunch in my house and it just expires because no one drinks it.

00:05:44

Xochitl

Ohh burn.

00:05:58

Xochitl

Is it like the Swiss news type that you have though, like the instant hot cocoa?

00:06:02

Jack

Yeah, it’s not like real. It’s not real hot chocolate. It’s just the the exactly, it’s the powder.

00:06:04

발표자

That’s what.

00:06:09

Jack

That you mix with hot.

00:06:10

Jack

Warm milk or or water if you.

00:06:14

Jack

I think the water, it tastes the worst. You know, if you mix it with milk.

00:06:17

Xochitl

Yeah, but if you hate yourself.

00:06:19

Xochitl

And drink it with water.

00:06:20

Jack

Yeah, yeah. I mean, that’s just it’s just sugar water and it’s really gross. But with milk it it’s it’s a little bit better. I just, I just don’t like to get my calories from drinks. Usually. Yeah, unless, you know, I do, I do drink milk, but I drink it with my coffee.

00:06:41

Jack

Cause I love ice lattes, so I will drink. You know, a lot of coffee with with milk.

00:06:42

발표자

Right.

00:06:50

Xochitl

But it’s like a splash.

00:06:51

Xochitl

Of milk in your coffee. Not like.

00:06:53

Jack

Ohh no, I drink like full actually I I just lied to you. I drink a lot of calories. Uh, actually if you count milk because I’ll put like I’ll make a really strong like 3 espresso shots and then fill up a cup with ice and then the rest is milk. It’s probably it’s only half a cup of milk. It’s because there’s so much ice.

00:07:14

Jack

Dinner but.

00:07:15

Xochitl

Right.

00:07:16

Jack

I’ll drink those. Like I’ll drink like two or three.

00:07:18

Jack

A day because.

00:07:19

Xochitl

OK, but that but milk does have some nutritional value. You’re not really getting sugar like sugar calories for that, which is something I do admire because I definitely drink a lot of my calories lately. I mean, I had a full I have like a 16 ounce coke and.

00:07:36

Xochitl

28 oz cups of eggnogs just today, so I definitely drink my calories. I try.

00:07:41

발표자

Yeah. Yeah. Well.

00:07:42

Xochitl

To be more mindful that in the new.

00:07:43

Jack

Year it’s so it’s so easy to do and I mean I do. I do sometimes drink calories too because like I said, I I drink, I drink milk and.

00:07:56

Jack

And but I you know I.

00:07:57

Jack

Drink diet soda sometimes. So that’s, you know, got its own problems related to it so.

00:08:06

Jack

I’m I’m by no means like Mr. healthy.

00:08:09

Jack

Over here on my high horse, you know?

00:08:12

Xochitl

You know, I as I’ve gotten older, I have come around to eggnog, so it’s not the horrible choice I would have vilified you for before, but I don’t like the like the Holly nod. Like I don’t like the brand that you’re talking about. It tastes. There’s, like, a really strong nutmeg flavor to that brand that’s like overpowering.

00:08:32

Xochitl

And it’s like too thick and too sweet.

00:08:35

Xochitl

And and I like when I was younger, I used to prefer silk, not like the the the I guess vegan option that was made with soy milk because it was thinner.

00:08:51

Xochitl

And it wasn’t so thick. It was like a texture thing, and it had less of a really intense, like eggy and not Maggie type of flavor. So I put, I would ask my parents to purchase some milk. Not is what I would drink. I would not drink the regular eggnog because it was.

00:08:59

Jack

OK.

00:09:06

Xochitl

Nasty because.

00:09:06

Xochitl

It was like thick and.

00:09:08

Xochitl

My sister really loved.

00:09:10

Xochitl

Eggnog and I just was never a fan.

00:09:13

Xochitl

And in recent.

00:09:14

Xochitl

Years I’ve actually come around to it. Only specific brands I like. There’s a brand here in Iowa called Kelowna, Supernatural, and it’s like an organic, I guess, milk, but it’s like the eggnog is pretty thin and it has like cinnamon and stuff in it.

00:09:34

Xochitl

And it’s it’s very kind of like thin. It’s so creamy, but it doesn’t have that custardy like flavor or thickness.

00:09:40

Jack

Yeah, it’s almost comfy.

00:09:43

Jack

Then it comes up, yeah.

00:09:44

Xochitl

Yeah, it’s not like clumpy or like thick. So I really enjoyed that actually. And I’ve come around to it. But that being said, I do prefer hot chocolate and that’s because I don’t drink the little sweet.

00:09:59

Xochitl

Packets. I always bring chocolate from Mexico and.

00:10:03

Xochitl

You dissolve that.

00:10:04

Xochitl

And milk.

00:10:06

Xochitl

And drink it. And I like to add some marshmallows in the bottom of the cup and then put like, some whipped cream on top and go to town on that.

00:10:15

Jack

You just make real hot real hot chocolate. Like the way it’s supposed to be made you mix. You put real chocolate in with milk and and then you can add the the sugar. You don’t even have to add that much sugar, probably because the marshmallows are sweetening it up.

00:10:31

Jack

Enough. Yeah, I don’t add.

00:10:33

Xochitl

Any sugar actually? Because it’s like dark chocolate. But it is sweetened some.

00:10:37

Jack

Oh, OK, so it’s sweet and dark chocolate. OK. Yeah, that sounds really nice. That sounds wonderful. Yeah.

00:10:43

Xochitl

Yeah. And the Mexican one had it comes with like cinnamon and some other like spices in it incorporated into it.

00:10:52

발표자

OK.

00:10:52

Xochitl

So yeah, it has a really rich, nutty flavor, cause it’s like the actual cocoa beans that have been like, crushed and processed. Yeah. So it’s tasty.

00:11:04

Jack

I mean, I would be OK with either option to be honest, but The thing is, I haven’t had eggnog for.

00:11:10

Jack

Probably 20 years, so I just miss it. You know, they don’t sell it where I live. Here. I live in Korea so that we don’t have eggnog here. You have to make your own and.

00:11:22

Jack

I don’t know. I’m too lazy to do that so.

00:11:25

Jack

I think just buying Holly Nog in America would be would be kind of nice just one time.

00:11:33

Xochitl

Yeah. And it’s so special because it’s like you can only really have it around the like very specific like from November to December maybe or like November to the very beginning of like the end of November to the very beginning of January is when you can find eggnog on the shelves and.

00:11:50

Xochitl

You kind of get like a a month and maybe a couple of weeks like six weeks of eggnog time at at the Max. And then it’s just completely gone off the shelves and you can’t buy it anywhere. So.

00:12:03

Jack

You can go to McDonald’s and you can.

00:12:04

Jack

Get an eggnog shake, which are amazing those are.

00:12:08

Xochitl

Is that a real?

00:12:09

Xochitl

Thing I’ve never had that before.

00:12:10

Jack

Yes, yes, they have the Shamrock shake, which is around Saint Patrick’s Day, which is.

00:12:16

Jack

Mint and then they have the around the holiday season, they’ve got the eggnog shake.

00:12:24

Xochitl

I may have to try that. I’m sure it’s going to be like 1000.

00:12:27

Xochitl

Calories in.

00:12:27

Xochitl

One I got I have.

00:12:27

Jack

Ohh yeah, it’s a.

00:12:29

Xochitl

To give it a try though now.

00:12:30

Jack

You gotta try it though.

00:12:31

Xochitl

That you’ve talked about it. Gotta try it. Alright, Jack. Now what about Christmas? Ham or Christmas Turkey? Which do you prefer? And which did you grow up with? I’m curious as well.

00:12:44

Jack

Both we’ve we’ve done turkeys and we’ve done hams.

00:12:48

Jack

UMI think maybe we did more turkeys than hams. If I’m not mistaken, but I’ll take a Christmas ham any day of the week like over a A Christmas Turkey. You.

00:12:59

Xochitl

Know Turkey is.

00:13:00

Jack

Nice on Thanksgiving, but it’s very dry. It’s kind of, it’s a dry meat. It’s not like it’s not necessarily.

00:13:09

Jack

The most delicious bird meat or poultry that you can that you can eat. I I love it but I eat it for nostalgic purposes but a ham. Ohh man. A really nice ham is is so good like ohh man. Couple slices of ham with some potatoes and.

00:13:29

Jack

Yeah, it’s just a beautiful.

00:13:33

Jack

Meal. Yeah, I I miss. I missed the Christmas ham, to be honest.

00:13:38

Jack

What about you?

00:13:39

Xochitl

You know.

00:13:41

Xochitl

If I could choose anything, I would choose Doc. I think to make on Christmas, but that wasn’t one of the.

00:13:46

Jack

Oh yeah. OK.

00:13:48

Xochitl

Options so I will go.

00:13:50

Xochitl

With ham as well, I think Turkey, it’s just pretty bland. The only time I had really good Turkey was my grandpa, and I think my cousin like made a recipe together.

00:14:02

Xochitl

There where it was like Turkey Al Pastor, which is like a Mexican Taco kind of seasoning, but not like what you would typically think of as Taco seasoning in the Midwest as like chipotles and like some other dried chilies and adobo, like, mixed in a spice.

00:14:22

Xochitl

Mix and then.

00:14:23

Xochitl

Rubbed on the Turkey and it was really good. It made the Turkey super super flavorful.

00:14:31

Xochitl

But besides that, I’ve just never been a huge tricky fan. I’m OK with the leg as well, like I prefer the leg over the breast or anything, but I just. I’m not a Turkey fan. I mean, as you said, go ahead.

00:14:42

Jack

Yeah. No, I’m sorry. It was just, it’s easy to make it to. It’s easy to dry out the Turkey if you if it’s cooked properly, where people aren’t adding water, basting it, you know, a couple sticks of butter, you know, all over it, you know, it can really make it.

00:15:00

Jack

Make it delicious.

00:15:01

Jack

This so it it depends on how it’s prepared I think.

00:15:06

Xochitl

Yeah, I mean, I’ve definitely had it. The most delicious Turkey, and it still wasn’t it just it’s harder to make that delicious and like it if you just put a ham in there, you know, rub some spices or some hot honey on it or something and stick it in the oven, you know, it’s gonna come out good.

00:15:23

Jack

And it even just even just it just bakes in its own fat.

00:15:28

Xochitl

Yeah. And it comes out like good every time pretty much it’s just lots of a hassle. I I just.

00:15:30

Jack

Yeah, right.

00:15:33

Xochitl

Prefer it to cooking the Turkey so you know.

00:15:40

Xochitl

I I am also a a ham fan. What about?

00:15:45

Xochitl

Candy canes or chocolate oranges. Now, candy canes uh for viewers who are unfamiliar are these little.

00:15:53

Xochitl

Cane shaped candies that are white and red, and they have a strong peppermint flavor. A very strong peppermint flavor, and then the chocolate orange is very popular here in the US and it’s just a chocolate shaped like an orange. It even has little wedges that come out of its.

00:16:13

Xochitl

Whole and it’s just kind of orange flavored, but it does have like an artificial orange flavoring in my opinion.

00:16:21

Jack

Yeah, I mean the, the, the when it.

00:16:24

Jack

Comes to like eating.

00:16:26

Jack

I’d probably rather eat the chocolate orange.

00:16:29

Jack

Then the candy cane.

00:16:31

Jack

But if you’re if you’re talking about aesthetics, you know, like like the the look of it like I’d rather have a Christmas with candy canes and no chocolate orange.

00:16:42

Jack

Is if that makes sense, because we used to decorate our tree with candy canes and we put them on the tree and then you could, you know, if you’re, like, need a mint or something and you’re, you know, you could take one and break off a.

00:16:57

Jack

Piece but to eat?

00:16:58

Jack

A whole candy cane is is.

00:17:01

Xochitl

Kind of overwhelming.

00:17:02

Jack

Yeah, it’s too much mint. It’s it’s not good.

00:17:09

Xochitl

I kind of only like could glean in white ones. They’re they come in different colors and the green and white ones have the like experiment flavor. Have you had those?

00:17:16

Jack

Yeah, I know what you’re talking about. Yeah, they have fruity ones they have.

00:17:18

Xochitl

Little different.

00:17:20

Jack

All kinds of different.

00:17:21

Xochitl

They have bubble gum flavored ones. I do like those, actually bubble gum ones and the lemon ones like the lemon ones that are. But yeah, I think the aesthetics are very Christmas thing. The red and white are the green and white are the red and green and white candy canes. But.

00:17:40

Xochitl

I even though.

00:17:42

Xochitl

I don’t really like the chocolate orange because.

00:17:44

Xochitl

It’s it’s kind of artificial tasting, I think I’d still rather eat it just because the candy cane gets so overwhelming after a while.

00:17:52

Jack

Yeah, yeah. I’m not gonna do the.

00:17:54

Jack

Candy cane. Take my I don’t.

00:17:57

Jack

Think my teeth could handle it anymore, you know?

00:18:00

Xochitl

It’s like burning your mouth too, and it’s.

00:18:03

Xochitl

Yeah, I don’t know.

00:18:03

Jack

Sugar. It’s just eat. You’re just eating a.

00:18:05

Jack

Sugar like if I’m.

00:18:07

Jack

Gonna eat that much sugar? I want to enjoy what I’m eating. Like. I don’t want to. I’m not going to just open a bag of sugar and start, you know, taking spoons of sugar. I’m gonna eat something decadent. You know something? You naughty a dessert.

00:18:24

Jack

That I really enjoy, and so I wouldn’t, I just wouldn’t waste the calories on a candy cane, but a piece of chocolate, like one slice.

00:18:32

Jack

Of chocolate orange. I kind of like that. It’s it’s. It’s like an interesting flavor. Like you said that you you said use the expression flavor profile and it’s got like orange zest in it, but it’s also chocolate. I don’t mind that. I wouldn’t be able to eat the whole thing obviously, but one slice of it would be.

00:18:52

Jack

You know, kind of perfect.

00:18:54

Xochitl

Right.

00:18:55

Xochitl

Yeah, for sure. How about Christmas cookies or gingerbread man? Now, Christmas cookies are like a sugar cookie with a sugar icing. It’s literally just like cream or water and powdered sugar and food coloring that we put on top of Christmas cookies. And the base is just kind of like a vanilla butter sugar.

00:19:17

Xochitl

Cookie base and then gingerbread men have a gingerbread base. Which are it has ginger as one of the seasonings and then it.

00:19:28

Xochitl

Has like treacle or molasses, so like a thick dark sugar as another seasoning and it has a much more spicy.

00:19:39

Xochitl

Kind of flavor. It’s heavily spiced.

00:19:42

Xochitl

Yeah, yeah. Which do you prefer?

00:19:45

Jack

You know, I don’t mind gingerbread. I mean, I like it. I I can eat that. I think it tastes interesting, but.

00:19:55

Jack

100% give me a Christmas cookie any day. Any day like I I would love. I love Christmas cookies, especially one shaped like a tree.

00:20:04

Jack

Or Santa Claus.

00:20:06

Jack

Or a star.

00:20:08

Jack

UM, you?

00:20:10

Jack

Know those are I I love Christmas cookies. I I like them for the nostalgic purposes and I like the way they taste too. So.

00:20:22

Jack

That’s my choice. What about you?

00:20:24

Xochitl

Yeah, I.

00:20:25

Xochitl

I would also.

00:20:26

Xochitl

Pick Christmas cookie just because like you said, Gingerbread. You know, it’s interesting. I could. I could.

00:20:32

Xochitl

One and I would enjoy it, but I think Christmas cookies are just they can be too sweet. Which is why when I make my own, I prefer to just do like an outline of icing instead of covering the whole cookie and a sheet of icing. But it’s just one of those delights that you could just.

00:20:53

Xochitl

You could eat.

00:20:53

Xochitl

Five in a row easily and not real.

00:20:56

Jack

Ohh yeah yeah yeah, I.

00:20:59

Jack

I I I indulge.

00:21:02

Jack

That’s why we don’t. I don’t have. I don’t. We don’t. We don’t make them here around.

00:21:08

Xochitl

Can’t have them in your house? Yeah, usually.

00:21:09

Jack

No, no, no, no, I can’t. I can’t. It’s. But it’s such when my mom used to.

00:21:13

Jack

Make them she would make like.

00:21:14

Jack

100 You know I.

00:21:15

Jack

Mean they were. They were everywhere they were.

00:21:19

Jack

You you every time I walk past the kitchen, I I’d grab one or two.

00:21:24

Jack

And head down to watch TV and that’s why they call it the holiday 15 or whatever you gain. Like, I guess that’s not no, that’s the freshman 15. Sorry, I’m using that holiday 5 is what it’s called.

00:21:35

Xochitl

Shipping the holiday five, I think maybe.

00:21:40

Jack

The 5 lbs.

00:21:40

Xochitl

Yeah, nowadays it.

00:21:41

Xochitl

Does feel like it could be more like 15?

00:21:44

Jack

Well, it used to be 15 for me probably, but.

00:21:46

Jack

Yeah, I mean.

00:21:47

Jack

I would I always gained a ton of weight around the holiday season because I just ate whatever I wanted and there were. It was. Everything was around. You know, there’s just every corner you turn. There’s some new treats that my my mom was preparing Christmas cookies.

00:22:03

Jack

Chocolate covered cherries, almond bark.

00:22:07

Jack

I mean, how are you? What?

00:22:09

Jack

Are you going to do is say no to?

00:22:10

Jack

That I mean it’s.

00:22:12

Xochitl

Yeah, just especially as a kid. There’s, like, so many treats. I remember one time I was at like my.

00:22:19

Xochitl

Dad’s like.

00:22:22

Xochitl

Departments Christmas parties. My dad is a professor, and I remember I grabbed like another cookie I already had, like two or three, and then one of the other professors.

00:22:32

Xochitl

He was like watching his children kind of, and he said.

00:22:38

Xochitl

How many have?

00:22:39

Xochitl

You had and I said one.

00:22:40

Xochitl

And he was like, oh, that’s the well that.

00:22:42

Xochitl

He’s like well.

00:22:42

Xochitl

The perfect answer is 2 because no one will tell you that you can’t have another one. And I said, well, the perfect answer is one because.

00:22:47

Xochitl

Then I can have two more, not just.

00:22:49

Xochitl

One and I have. Yeah, I have lied and said only had one already, but I already have three. I’m.

00:22:56

Xochitl

It’s just such a kid.

00:22:57

Xochitl

Because there’s just like, there’s literally mountains of different desserts, like holiday cookies and brownies and.

00:23:04

Jack

Why was that guy? What was he the?

00:23:06

Jack

Cookie please or something.

00:23:07

Xochitl

That’s kind of why he was like, I don’t know what, why he was on my **** about this, but he was kind of messing with all the kids in the same way. But it was kind of annoying. I was like, bro, you didn’t even bring these my laughs as many as I want.

00:23:20

Jack

Yeah, yeah. I don’t like that at all. I don’t like that. That’s like a form of shaming, shaming stuff. Yeah, yeah.

00:23:26

Xochitl

Yeah, for sure it was.

00:23:29

Jack

Else you like to do that to kids and I.

00:23:33

Jack

I never understood.

00:23:34

Jack

What? Why they do that? It’s it’s really annoying.

00:23:38

Xochitl

Right. What the power trip is about. I mean, kids are there to enjoy the holidays.

00:23:43

Xochitl

They don’t, really.

00:23:43

Xochitl

Have to worry about calories the same way we.

00:23:45

Xochitl

Do either they’re like.

00:23:46

Xochitl

Running around burning that off pretty much constantly, yeah.

00:23:49

Jack

Sure. Of course, of course.

00:23:52

Xochitl

Yeah, and yeah, it’s just it’s such a joyous experience because really there’s like mountains of brownies, mountains of.

00:24:01

Xochitl

Different types of cookies? Cake. Ohh yeah fudge. There’s like the least popular desserts which are like, you know, bourbon cake, fruit cake, bread.

00:24:04

Jack

Ohh fudge my mom used.

00:24:05

Jack

To make comments too.

00:24:18

Xochitl

Pudding with raisins in it.

00:24:21

Jack

Yeah, yeah.

00:24:22

Xochitl

Things like that. Yeah. And then there’s like.

00:24:24

Xochitl

The ones that are kind of like sugary snacks like candy covered pretzels or chocolate covered strawberries, or you know, whatever.

00:24:33

Xochitl

But yeah, there’s just such an assortment of different snacks, and I think it’s just such a great time, great time to be a.

00:24:39

Xochitl

Kid, because you’re like so.

00:24:42

Xochitl

Awestruck by all of this delicious food, and you don’t even you’re not worried because you didn’t have to bring anything to the party. That was your parents job.

00:24:47

Jack

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:50

Xochitl

So you’re just enjoying it.

00:24:55

Jack

Is is the best part of it? I mean, usually those those kinds of holiday parties, nobody cares. Everyone’s the adults are are getting drunk and you know, they’re drinking. They’re drinking a different kind of eggnog, you know, eggnog with some bourbon or. Yeah.

00:25:13

Jack

Alcohol in it, which I always thought was disgusting. I tried that when I was an adult. I I drank the alcoholic eggnog and I was like, why would you?

00:25:23

Jack

Ever ruin eggnog with alcohol?

00:25:27

발표자

You should have.

00:25:28

Xochitl

The one in Mexico’s called Rompope and it’s like it’s much tastier than the eggnog spiked with alcohol here in the US. It’s like it’s it’s thinner and it has, like, more different spices in it. And it’s really in the kind of vanilla flavored and it’s very tasty. It tastes like a Bay leaves Irish but like.

00:25:46

Jack

Ohh OK then I could get on board probably.

00:25:49

Xochitl

Yeah, it’s.

00:25:50

Xochitl

Good. Yeah, but the one here, it’s like the texture is kind of wrong for for like the alcohol as well. It like makes it thick and it’s already thick. And then it’s just like thick and burning your throat at the same time.

00:25:51

Jack

OK.

00:26:02

Jack

Yeah, it’s just. Well, it just.

00:26:04

Jack

Has a horrible after taste. It’s just like, Oh no thanks.

00:26:07

Xochitl

Yeah, yeah. What did I drink for sure? Alright. Which brings us to our next talking point. Terrible Christmas traditions. Jeff, what is something you think is a terrible Christmas tradition?

00:26:21

Jack

My terrible Christmas traditions. Alright, well, let’s see here. I think one terrible Christmas tradition is.

00:26:31

Jack

Like caroling is annoying, right? Like.

00:26:36

Jack

If you’re participating in caroling, you’re you have to go outside in the freezing cold weather and then you’re going to people’s houses and singing.

00:26:47

Jack

Uh to them. But they didn’t ask for it, so it’s unsolicited singing.

00:26:57

Xochitl

And they’re kind of interrupting your, like, holiday time.

00:27:00

Jack

Yeah, you’re eating dinner or something, and then it’s like, oh, hey, Carol, the carolers are here, and then we all have to run out and pretend that we enjoy that they came by, but we’re just, like, really hoping they’ll leave really soon. And, you know, it’s just, it’s like, and the carolers are so excited and they think that everybody loves it.

00:27:20

Jack

And it’s like, you know, it’s like when you’re.

00:27:22

Jack

When your toddler.

00:27:24

Jack

Gives you a a artwork from kindergarten or whatever and.

00:27:29

Jack

You like. Look, look what?

00:27:30

Jack

I made you know, and you have to be, like, pretend that it’s the most amazing painting ever painted of.

00:27:38

Jack

A horse or.

00:27:39

Jack

Whatever and and, but really, you know it’s, you know, it’s not genuine.

00:27:45

Jack

I I don’t know. I mean maybe.

00:27:46

Jack

Some people enjoy it, they like genuinely enjoy caroling. I just frankly think it’s more of like a movie thing. It’s like.

00:27:55

Xochitl

A performance thing to like? Uh.

00:27:58

Xochitl

Like we have.

00:27:59

Xochitl

For full term, it’s just like a a tradition that people perform it even if they don’t want to. Kind of.

00:28:07

Jack

Well, you know the the the thing that.

00:28:09

Jack

My problem with it again is just the intrusion, like going to people’s houses and doing it. I kind of like like maybe.

00:28:17

Jack

If you go to.

00:28:18

Jack

A performance like if you go to a church service or something like that and then there’s a choir singing some of the Christmas songs.

00:28:27

Jack

Then I I’m like, that’s great. I that’s what I signed up.

00:28:27

Xochitl

Right.

00:28:30

Jack

Four, but.

00:28:31

Xochitl

Or, if you’re like, if Carol, you know.

00:28:33

Xochitl

I think it’d be better if, like the Carroll Group, like went downtown or something, and they were just like downtown kind of busking like, because if you’re in the downtown area or whatever, then you would expect to see stuff like that on Christmas and.

00:28:45

Xochitl

It kind of.

00:28:45

Jack

I don’t mind that either.

00:28:46

Jack

I don’t mind public, public singing around the the holiday season. I’m not a total Scrooge. I’m not like a Bahama bug. I just think it’s like the personal intrusion, like I’m in the middle of die hard, you know, it’s like a really cool part coming up and then I hear these people singing outside. I can’t be rude and ignore them.

00:28:52

Xochitl

Right.

00:29:06

Jack

But I have to humor them, but I don’t really appreciate it as much as they think that I appreciate it so.

00:29:13

Jack

You know, you know who appreciates the carolers, our elderly people.

00:29:18

Jack

They just love.

00:29:18

Xochitl

That’s true.

00:29:18

Jack

That stuff. So they should just go to elderly people’s houses and just put a.

00:29:23

Jack

Smile on on.

00:29:24

Xochitl

Or like Elder like.

00:29:26

Xochitl

They should go to nursing homes. And just like saying I that would be like the most appreciating.

00:29:28

Jack

Yes, go to nursing homes. That’s what they they love that don’t. Don’t.

00:29:33

Jack

Carol on my.

00:29:34

Jack

St. No one, no one cares. Hey.

00:29:36

Xochitl

Yeah, get off my freaking St. we’re like.

00:29:38

발표자

Get out of get.

00:29:39

Jack

Off my yard and shake my cane at them.

00:29:41

Xochitl

Yeah, you know, I I I’m not a fan of carolers either. I I the interruption, you know, I think would be a really funny comedy sketch is if you’re like, in there arguing with your family and Carol or, like, knock on the door and you have to, like, open the door and like, stop. Yeah, you have to, like, stop for through it.

00:29:56

Jack

What? What do you want?

00:30:01

Jack

Hack the horse with balls of Holly. Shut up.

00:30:05

Xochitl

You hear like glass breaking in the.

00:30:07

Xochitl

Background people like this fighting.

00:30:07

Jack

Yeah, yeah.

00:30:09

Xochitl

I mean, yeah, the intrusion aspect is something that’s hard, especially because I think American culture is very individualistic and we don’t like, have community in the same way that other cultures do. And I think we.

00:30:24

Xochitl

I I mean, I’m not ********.

00:30:25

Xochitl

On your perspective, I have the same.

00:30:26

Xochitl

Perspective as you I don’t want anyone like knocking on my door.

00:30:29

Xochitl

I probably won’t answer and.

00:30:34

Xochitl

We don’t like, we don’t really have that kind of of community aspect and it does feel like an intrusion and you have to suffer through this and then oftentimes part of the tradition is like, you have to offer them like hot chocolate or something to drink.

00:30:50

Jack

Yeah, right. Yeah, some some piggy pudding, yeah.

00:30:51

Xochitl

And then I’ll standing around.

00:30:54

Jack

And I’m.

00:30:55

발표자

Like I don’t even.

00:30:55

Jack

Know what figgy pudding is? I’m sorry. Like I’ve never seen it. I’ve never had it before.

00:31:03

Jack

I couldn’t pick a fig out of a police lineup. Probably so.

00:31:11

Jack

Yeah, get off my lawn, you carolers.

00:31:14

Jack

What else is?

00:31:14

Jack

There. What? What’s another like horrible Christmas tradition?

00:31:14

Xochitl

Yeah, that is.

00:31:18

Jack

I I I. I’ll. I’ll.

00:31:19

발표자

Right.

00:31:20

Jack

Give you an example, I have one. I think that you would agree with is like I think this like this idea of parents that just go way.

00:31:28

Jack

Over the top.

00:31:28

Jack

With presents is just is getting out of hand like.

00:31:33

Jack

You know.

00:31:36

Jack

It’s like keeping up.

00:31:38

Jack

With The Smiths, we say, right, that expression or.

00:31:41

Xochitl

Like keeping up with the Joneses, you mean?

00:31:43

Jack

As Joe Jones.

00:31:44

Jack

Is sorry not The Smiths. I’m thinking of something else. Maybe I’m thinking of the movie. Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Yeah. Keeping up with the Joneses. That’s what I meant to say. It’s the the idea that you have to, like, match what your neighbor’s doing and do a little bit better. Just, just just to prove to everyone watching how.

00:31:49

Xochitl

You probably are.

00:32:04

Jack

How well you’re doing, you know, as far as like, financial?

00:32:08

Jack

Really being financially successful and so you know, I got my kids, an Xbox and new, you know, video game, PlayStation and Ohh well then I got mine, the newer one and you know.

00:32:23

Jack

There’s there’s one up 11.

00:32:25

Jack

Upsmanship, I don’t. I don’t like it.

00:32:29

Jack

I I feel like the Christmas has just become and this has been for a long time, way too consumer based, you know, it’s just it’s all about consumerism. How much can we consume and and stuff that will be in a closet two months from now.

00:32:47

Jack

No, just collecting dust. Just jump.

00:32:51

Jack

And I that that’s.

00:32:53

Jack

That’s one aspect of of Christmas that I really I I don’t know. I I just, it’s it’s really gotten out of out of control I think. So I I don’t like that aspect of of the of the Christmas. I I want I want to get back to to a more.

00:33:13

Jack

Traditional approach to it, which is the the family time it’s, you know, a time to not work a time to decompress, spend time with family and really make connections. And like what you said, you’re always about the experience presence.

00:33:31

Jack

Why not do something like that, like go skiing or do something as a family and use the money to like do something instead of just buy something. Just always buying dumb stuff.

00:33:44

Jack

Plastic garbage that’s gonna end up in the middle of the ocean. A year and a half from now, you know.

00:33:51

Xochitl

Right.

00:33:52

Jack

Yeah, that’s my. I’m on my I’m on my soapbox this morning.

00:33:56

Xochitl

I you know, I agree. I agree. Because as you know, I’m a huge proponent of the experience gift. I think experience is there’s so much more valuable to us than.

00:34:08

Xochitl

And item like actually getting physical material goods and those memories are something you get to keep forever and in its value only increases with time. Looking back and with the junk you get on Christmas, it’s like, OK, well, I’m 30 years, it’s going to be any good or.

00:34:28

Xochitl

In you know in 20 in just five years now with with planned OPS leases is probably going to.

00:34:33

Xochitl

Be in the trash.

00:34:34

Jack

I have a Nintendo Wii. It’s just collecting dust.

00:34:38

Xochitl

Yep, we gotta pee.

00:34:38

Jack

No. Yeah.

00:34:39

Xochitl

As well, it also collects stuff. We gotta wee for Christmas one.

00:34:42

Xochitl

Year it’s collecting dust. We barely we we didn’t play it that much to be honest. At the time there weren’t that many games for it in the US and like I don’t know, I just there’s I think.

00:35:00

Xochitl

If I ever have kids, I would like to include them on what would they like to have for Christmas? What would they like to do? You know, if they want some juncture, maybe they can have some junk, but like, wouldn’t you rather travel or would you rather go on a ski trip or would you rather?

00:35:21

Xochitl

Go. You know, do something else and and spend that time together and that money more wisely.

00:35:30

Xochitl

Then yeah, they’re buying a bunch of junk. I actually haven’t gotten presents for anyone this year, and I and I don’t want presents from anyone either. I have enough stuff. I just don’t want more stuff. I mean, there’s.

00:35:43

Xochitl

A couple things.

00:35:44

Xochitl

That people in my life like can need that I’m like oh.

00:35:46

Xochitl

Yeah, I’ll get them that.

00:35:48

Xochitl

But like.

00:35:51

Xochitl

If I already have enough things, I don’t want more clothes. I don’t want like physical items, especially in someone who travels so much it just clutters up your space and.

00:36:02

Xochitl

I don’t have like the.

00:36:04

Xochitl

The space to be storing perpetually, storing tons and tons of clothing items. So.

00:36:09

Jack

Right.

00:36:11

Jack

And I find that I I wear the same.

00:36:15

Jack

Thing over and over again anyway, like the the of of my clothing choices.

00:36:20

Jack

I there’s a very narrow scope of what I will wear anyway.

00:36:24

Jack

I I mean, I I spent a lot of my time.

00:36:26

Xochitl

Right.

00:36:28

Jack

Just at home wearing like Adidas, an Adidas tracksuit, you know it’s like.

00:36:33

Xochitl

Right.

00:36:34

Jack

If I’d have.

00:36:34

Jack

Known. That’s all I’d like. I would have just bought like 5 track suits in every color of the rainbow. And that’s that’s all I’m going to wear.

00:36:41

Xochitl

Right.

00:36:45

Jack

UM.

00:36:46

Jack

Yeah, it’s very strange. Why? How we collect stuff that we think we need and then you start to look, go through your stuff and you’re like, wow, I I I don’t need any of this stuff. I just.

00:36:59

Jack

So I I’m.

00:37:01

Jack

I think the consumerism is 1. You know terrible aspect of.

00:37:06

Jack

Christmas, the the and you know.

00:37:08

Jack

It’s been like that for.

00:37:11

Jack

I don’t know, 50 years, probably, maybe longer, but it’s. But it just seems to get more out of control every every decade. You know, it just gets ridiculous.

00:37:23

Jack

UM.

00:37:24

Jack

And yeah, the other one was, I guess I was, I’m really anti caroling, although compared to consumerism. I’ll I’ll take caroling over consumerism.

00:37:37

Xochitl

Any day I for me, I guess mine are.

00:37:43

Xochitl

My tradition that I really don’t like is in Mexico. There’s something called Christmas like salad. I don’t know why it’s called this. It’s a soup, not a salad to begin with. And it’s.

00:37:56

Xochitl

It’s cold, sweet beet juice.

00:38:01

Xochitl

And that’s like the base for the soup. So like bright red and inside it has like chunks of.

00:38:09

Xochitl

Fruit like apples, oranges, jicama and then it has.

00:38:15

Xochitl

Like candied peanuts floating in it too.

00:38:19

Jack

Well, why not at this point?

00:38:21

Xochitl

Yeah, right. And a couple of.

00:38:23

Jack

When it’s not there, yeah.

00:38:25

Xochitl

Yeah, a couple other things I don’t remember. And and I’ve just hated it ever since I was a child. I don’t think there’ll ever be a time where my taste buds will actually like this. And my mom makes a big old pot of it every year. When I was a kid, she would force me to eat a certain amount of it, and I would.

00:38:43

Xochitl

It would be so hard not to barf because it was just the, you know, beat. Jews just doesn’t work. It’s like.

00:38:49

Jack

You lost me. You lost me at beach juice. To be honest. Like after that. It didn’t matter. What was it? It you could be gold bar gold bullion in there. And I don’t care after.

00:39:00

Xochitl

That’s how I felt. I did not want especially sweet beet juice as like a base it.

00:39:05

Xochitl

Was just it’s so.

00:39:06

Xochitl

Bad and and I’ve never liked this, and my father actually really likes it for some bizarre reason.

00:39:12

Jack

Yeah. Dad’s always like that weird have strange palettes like, yeah.

00:39:18

Xochitl

Yeah, they have weird *****, but weird that taste buds for sure but.

00:39:24

Xochitl

I just.

00:39:26

Xochitl

That’s probably the worst tradition I can think of is.

00:39:30

Xochitl

Is that and then another I’ll I’ll add in a little another one here and the last one for me. I think it’s having to see family that you don’t want to see. And I think this is changing with each generation and my generation does this less now.

00:39:47

Xochitl

But just the idea of how packing your kids up and forcing them to go see Grandma and Grandpa or you know, and it’s kind of a time we have such little time off these days, so little vacation time and.

00:40:03

Xochitl

It just feels like it’d be so great to be able to spend that time decompressing or traveling or doing something that you want to do, and instead we spend it seeing family that we sometimes don’t even want to see.

00:40:18

Xochitl

Yeah, for real and family, that doesn’t necessarily see eye to eye with us or doesn’t respect us.

00:40:28

Xochitl

It can be demoralizing to have to spend that little time off seeing people that you don’t want to see.

00:40:34

Xochitl

In the first place.

00:40:36

Jack

Yeah. No, that’s that’s a good point. You know, I don’t have that problem. I live in South.

00:40:40

Jack

Korea all.

00:40:40

Jack

Family live in America, so I I never see them, but I know that several of them will not speak to me because of our political differences. And so, you know, it would be.

00:40:55

Jack

Very awkward to try.

00:40:56

Jack

And a have a a a Christmas holiday get together because I know that, you know eventually.

00:41:06

Jack

The conversation will go to politics and I’ll express my opinions and they’ll, you know, denounce them as.

00:41:17

Jack

Evil and it’ll be he’ll turn into a huge a huge fight, a huge argument. So yeah, it’s it’s funny how families are kind of split right now over the very.

00:41:33

Jack

In English, we say polarized political landscape in America.

00:41:40

Jack

And so I I yeah, I I I think you’re right like why, why put yourself through that it’s like.

00:41:48

Jack

Be because it’s a tradition.

00:41:50

Jack

It’s like, well, that’s a dumb reason to do something you don’t want.

00:41:54

Jack

To do you know.

00:41:56

Jack

It’s just out of tradition. It’s like, well, make a new tradition.

00:42:01

Jack

All right, my new tradition is not putting myself through that painful experience and uh, going on a ski vacation with my, you know, best friend or something. Whatever. You know, there’s, there’s, I, I think we get, we get stuck in these these ideas like you.

00:42:18

Jack

We have to do it.

00:42:20

Jack

But why?

00:42:22

Xochitl

Right.

00:42:23

Jack

It’s not making anyone happy. That’s the and the whole point of it is to be joyful and and happy holidays. But if if you, if you’re not, if you don’t want to be around certain family members, why put yourself in that situation so?

00:42:39

Jack

Yeah, it’s it’s a. It’s an interesting thing. I I think like you said, I think younger generations are starting to go. You know what? I get very little time off. I’m not even going to go home for Christmas. I’m going to spend it with my friends or with my boyfriend, my girlfriend, or whatever. My significant other. We’re going to make our own traditions and.

00:42:59

Jack

The heck with the all all the the.

00:43:02

Jack

Old traditions from the 1980s or the 1990s.

00:43:06

Jack

When we don’t have to do that anymore and I respect people to do that, I I like that.

00:43:13

Xochitl

Yeah. So Jack’s moving on.

00:43:20

Xochitl

I have some other gifts or that type questions.

00:43:24

Jack

Now, yeah, OK.

00:43:26

Xochitl

Which do you prefer? The Grinch movie?

00:43:29

Xochitl

The Grinch cartoon or the new animated Grinch movie, I would guess which of all the Grinch series or movies do you prefer?

00:43:39

Jack

OK, so I.

00:43:40

Jack

Saw the 1969 one. I think it’s I I can’t remember what year it was, but it’s the old Grinch cartoon. It’s about 1/2 an hour long. It’s about 30 minutes.

00:43:50

Jack

Or 25 minutes long. Then there’s the Grinch movie with Jim Carrey, which is a full feature length movie, and it’s a live, you know, live action movie of The Grinch. And then they also recently released a kind of Pixar. I don’t know if it was Pixar, but like.

00:44:09

Jack

The CG animated Grinch movie.

00:44:12

Xochitl

Yep, I saw that.

00:44:14

Jack

OK. And I never, I haven’t seen that one because.

00:44:17

Xochitl

It’s not part of it. I’ve turned it off after a while. I didn’t like it.

00:44:20

Jack

Yeah, it looked boring to me and it was like I I think the perfect length for the Grinch story is about 20 minutes or 25 minutes, which and so the Grinch cartoon, I love the animation. It’s very loyal to the book, Doctor Seuss’s animated style.

00:44:39

Jack

It’s it’s got a great message. It’s funny. It’s got really good music. It’s got the whole thing. So, and it’s also creepy.

00:44:49

Jack

And my my.

00:44:50

Jack

Daughter used to be very scared of.

00:44:52

Jack

The Grinch from that cartoon.

00:44:55

Jack

Because he does look very creepy.

00:44:58

Xochitl

He doesn’t.

00:44:58

Jack

That’s not as creepy as.

00:45:00

Jack

The Jim Carrey one that’s even worse.

00:45:03

Xochitl

Right. The one slur like is the one that got me for Doctor Seuss. I had a dream that the one slur was choking me when I was about like 8 years old. And after that, I never wanted to. I never wanted to read The Lorax again, which is another famous Doctor Seuss story. And I I love The Lorax. Prior to that, I would force my.

00:45:23

Xochitl

I would force anyone who would offer to read to me to read me The Lorax as a child.

00:45:29

Jack

Yes. Again, conservation story, a story of conservation and and you know a great message, but done in a in a super creative way that’s this amazing.

00:45:41

Xochitl

Yeah, a very, very creative and fun way.

00:45:44

Jack

Yeah, they they tried to make that into a movie recently too, and it didn’t really work again. Like it, it doesn’t quite do it.

00:45:53

Xochitl

Yeah, it’s like they.

00:45:54

Xochitl

Kind of messing it up. It just doesn’t work the same.

00:45:59

Xochitl

Yeah, I I actually am going to go a little against the grain and say my favorite of all the Grinch.

00:46:06

Xochitl

Remastering stations or whatever, it’s just the original story.

00:46:10

Xochitl

I just. Nothing beats.

00:46:13

Xochitl

You know, as a kid sitting in, you know, your parents laugh or whatever, having them read you, the Grinch, and just following along with the illustrations, the original illustrations, which are very well done, and you kind of imagine all the different foods they talk about and.

00:46:30

Xochitl

Well, you know and and the Grinch and what he’s like. And it just like, nothing beats how vivid A child’s imagination is. And I think that that’s something really special. So I think for me personally, I would have my kids read the story. I would read it to my kids because.

00:46:46

Xochitl

It’s just such a special.

00:46:49

Xochitl

Little story.

00:46:50

Jack

Yeah, go to the source. Yeah. I I think you’re probably right. I mean, I can’t argue with that. I think the Grinch cartoon from the 1960s is is the second best choice. But yeah, I think reading the story.

00:47:07

Jack

Is is the best?

00:47:09

Jack

Especially when you’re.

00:47:10

Xochitl

And I mean.

00:47:11

Xochitl

Ohh sorry, didn’t mean to yeah check.

00:47:12

Jack

When you’re a.

00:47:12

Jack

Child I. It’s the best. It’s great.

00:47:14

Xochitl

Yeah, for sure. I I was gonna chime in and say as an adult, I actually watched the Jim Carrey one, but they did not see it as a child. I saw it.

00:47:27

Xochitl

And seeing it as an adult.

00:47:31

Xochitl

It is pretty funny, at least to me, so I did enjoy it. I mean, Jim Carrey kind of has a really physical comedy aspect, so he’s kind of wacky, you know, and I think the whole concept worked pretty well with his acting and.

00:47:48

Xochitl

Yeah, I got some laugh out of me seeing it as an adult. I mean as a.

00:47:51

Xochitl

Kid, I think it’s like.

00:47:54

Xochitl

It’s not going to be as funnier as like.

00:47:59

Xochitl

Entertaining, maybe, but.

00:48:02

Xochitl

As a as an adult I it’s kind of similar to watching ELF or something. I really enjoyed it.

00:48:07

Jack

Yeah, yeah, the movie elf is probably one of the best Christmas movies of the last 20 years.

00:48:14

Jack

25 years, yeah, yeah.

00:48:14

Xochitl

Yeah, that is a great Christmas movie.

00:48:17

Xochitl

Yeah. And then Speaking of the Grinch as.

00:48:22

Xochitl

Our listeners may or not.

00:48:23

Xochitl

Or may not be familiar with the Grinch’s heart grew three times at Christmas, meaning that he became a much better, warmer, kinder and more empathetic person by the.

00:48:35

Xochitl

End of the story.

00:48:37

Xochitl

So Jack, what makes?

00:48:39

Xochitl

Your heart grow three times during the holiday season.

00:48:44

Jack

Ohh that’s a good question. What makes my heart go, Teresa, I’m.

00:48:49

Jack

I’m going to go back to uh, I’m going to go back to the cartoons.

00:48:55

Jack

Because there’s one cartoon that makes my heart grow 3 sizes and you, you know this one. It’s the Charlie Brown Christmas.

00:49:06

Xochitl

Uh-huh. Never thought all the.

00:49:07

Jack

Have you? Oh, you’ve never seen the whole thing? Oh, my gosh. OK, this one is.

00:49:13

Jack

It’s got the.

00:49:15

Jack

It’s got the story and at the end when all the you know, all the kids are singing around the the little Christmas tree that Charlie Brown had bought.

00:49:25

Jack

It was a.

00:49:26

Jack

Such a sad tree, but they dressed it up and and made it look nice.

00:49:30

Jack

Sir. And then they were all singing. I don’t know. I I really love that. I think because I I watched it with my daughter when she was young. I would I I somehow downloaded it off of the Internet like 20 years ago or something and or 15 years ago. And so every Christmas, my daughter and I would watch this.

00:49:52

Jack

It’s kind of a tradition. We’d watch the Grinch. She didn’t like the Grinch that scared her when she was young, but she did love the Charlie Brown Christmas, especially the music.

00:50:05

Jack

And and then that story always kind of gets me, you know, it always kinds of it kind of tugs at my heartstrings and so it kind of makes me my heart grow 3 sizes larger.

00:50:20

Jack

During the holiday season so that I I’ve kind of, I kind of tightened the our last section to this this last segment here. What about you, what makes your heart grow 3 sizes?

00:50:33

Xochitl

Well, I think.

00:50:34

Xochitl

This Christmas it was. I was just in the shop with my aunt. We were getting like some last minute Christmas lights for the for the.

00:50:45

Xochitl

Bush is outside because some of ours burned out and getting a couple other things we needed at Target, and I walked past these little kids, really little kids who I think were with their grandparents and kids must have been like three and four or something. And the little boy was asking.

00:51:04

Xochitl

You know. Oh, well, you know, if we do this, how will Santa know that this one’s for me? And how will Santa know? Like he’s asking how Santa would know or be able to figure out.

00:51:14

Xochitl

Certain things and.

00:51:17

Xochitl

It’s so cute because you know, as an adult, we know that Santa isn’t real.

00:51:24

Xochitl

And it, but it’s like such a joy to hear.

00:51:29

Xochitl

Children like.

00:51:31

Xochitl

Caught up in that.

00:51:33

Xochitl

Kind of fantasy of Santa.

00:51:37

Xochitl

It’s just so it’s so.

00:51:38

Xochitl

Cute and like warm and and fuzzy.

00:51:42

Xochitl

And you hope that they it’s almost like it’s just the Christmas magic. It’s just so real when you’re a kid and you’re, like, waiting for something to calm and you’re so excited you can’t even sleep. It’s just like the world is such a great place when you’re.

00:51:58

Jack

I know, I know that.

00:52:02

Jack

I I missed that that your eyes just wide open at midnight on or, you know, 1159 on Christmas Eve because.

00:52:11

Jack

You’re just too.

00:52:11

Jack

Excited to to go to sleep.

00:52:15

Xochitl

I wish you could bottle that.

00:52:16

Jack

And yet you still fall asleep. And then you wake up in the morning and you rub your eyes and you’re like, and then you remember it’s Christmas morning and you run to the tree. I mean, how great is that? That is the greatest.

00:52:30

Jack

That memory also makes my heart grow 33 sizes, just remembering what it’s like to be a kid and then remembering what it was like for my daughter to wake up on Christmas and trying to give that to her. That was.

00:52:42

Xochitl

How did your daughter find out Santa wasn’t real?

00:52:45

Jack

Uh, my wife said that. I just.

00:52:46

Jack

Told her one.

00:52:47

Jack

Day and uh, I don’t remember doing that, but I probably did. I.

00:52:50

Xochitl

I have to.

00:52:51

Xochitl

Be brutal.

00:52:52

Jack

I know, I just. I just said like, Oh yeah, he’s not real.

00:52:57

발표자

Yeah, I don’t.

00:52:58

Jack

Know I don’t know.

00:52:59

Jack

Why I did that? I.

00:53:00

Jack

Think I felt like she was.

00:53:01

Jack

Old enough to where it was like.

00:53:03

Jack

You know the the the mystery is, is gone. Now it’s, you know.

00:53:09

Xochitl

How old do you think she was?

00:53:12

Xochitl

When that happened?

00:53:14

Jack

According to my wife, she was probably.

00:53:17

Jack

9 or 10 but I how about think? Maybe she was like 11 or something. Me a little bit older, you know, in in elementary school it wasn’t like she was four or five. And I just, you know, ruined.

00:53:24

Xochitl

Right.

00:53:29

Xochitl

Right. Ruined the match.

00:53:30

Jack

It for.

00:53:30

Jack

Her it was getting close to the time where you start to, you know, they start to hear rumors and innuendo around the.

00:53:38

Jack

The school that uh, Santa may not be real.

00:53:41

Jack

So I just kind.

00:53:42

발표자

Right.

00:53:43

Jack

Of told her. Yeah, it’s not real.

00:53:45

Xochitl

You wanted her to hear it from.

00:53:47

Jack

You. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I want her to know that I was the one that stayed up till 2:30 in the morning trying to put the, the, the, the kitchen set together. It was very difficult. I was like, sweating. And it took you needed.

00:54:05

Jack

All these crazy tools to and it would.

00:54:07

Jack

Weigh a ton.

00:54:08

Jack

And you know, it’s like a A A.

00:54:11

Jack

Fake kitchen kitchenette.

00:54:12

Jack

You know, area with a refrigerator and all this stuff.

00:54:16

Jack

And ohh man.

00:54:18

Jack

Those days, building those toys, I I do not miss that at all.

00:54:25

Xochitl

Right. Yeah. Well, that’s wild. I don’t know how. I think my dad also just told me.

00:54:29

Xochitl

Saying I wasn’t real.

00:54:30

Xochitl

I was like, I was like ohh. I was like 13 though. But it’s not that I didn’t think Santa wasn’t real already. It was like my sister was older than me and she kept pretending Santa is real so she could keep writing her list to Santa and just like, have my.

00:54:44

Xochitl

Parents give her presents and. Yeah, and so she.

00:54:47

Jack

She’s smart.

00:54:52

Xochitl

Was like keep writing your list to Santa and so then we just kept doing that. My dad I think was fed up with us doing that. So he just told that Santa wasn’t real. I was like 12 or I must been 12 or 13.

00:55:00

Xochitl

And she was like, 15 or 16/12/15?

00:55:03

Jack

He’s like, what do you?

00:55:03

Jack

Want just tell me what you want.

00:55:06

Xochitl

Grow up or whatever, but even.

00:55:10

Xochitl

When I was like 10 or 11, I think I still believed in Santa because.

00:55:18

Xochitl

I remember asking Santa Claus for an older brother because I was tired of my sister picking on me and I was like, you know, if I.

00:55:23

Xochitl

Had an older sibling, I bet that would fix it.

00:55:26

Xochitl

Then have someone to pick on.

00:55:28

Xochitl

Her. So that was my thinking and.

00:55:32

Xochitl

I think it was like probably 10 or so, and I thought of that genius plan.

00:55:35

Jack

Your dad said like I can’t deliver.

00:55:37

Jack

This one. So yeah, sorry.

00:55:40

Xochitl

Yeah, younger sibling, maybe older siblings and out of the question.

00:55:42

발표자

And it’s not, yeah.

00:55:43

Jack

Yeah, yeah, younger might be possible, but older.

00:55:46

Jack

We’re not adopting a A.

00:55:50

Jack

A kid, yeah.

00:55:51

Xochitl

Right. Adopting a child. So yeah, that.

00:55:53

Xochitl

Was all the question.

00:55:55

Xochitl

All right, listeners.

00:55:55

Xochitl

Will let us know what your favorite holiday traditions are in your neck of the woods. And yeah, tell us what you think about our holiday traditions here in the United States. And and yeah. What are some of your favorite holiday movies? Are there certain foods they eat during this time of year?

00:56:17

Xochitl

You know what is something that really warms your heart during this holiday season? Let us know at AZ englishpodcast@gmail.com. Drop us a comment on our website, azenglishpodcast.com and join our WhatsApp Group A-Z English podcast and our WeChat Group and we will see you guys next time.

00:56:38

Jack

Bye bye.

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